kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (wood cat)Kate ([personal profile] kate_nepveu) wrote,
@ 2011-04-21 06:06 pm UTC
Entry tags:fanfic, race, rants, tv

So one of the things I want to talk about at the WisCon "Fanfic 401" panel is marginalization of non-white characters; my principal recent example is Yusuf and Saito from Inception. [*]

And that reminds me of my response to Hawaii Five-0, specifically the fannish reaction that I've seen. I have not seen a single episode of this, though I have heard the occasional thing that makes it sound like I might like it. But, here's the thing, the principal cast consists of four people, as shown in this ridiculous promo image:

principal cast of Hawaii Five-0

I see some fannish activity about this show from people who I keep an eye on for their fic in other fandoms. I will give you three guesses as to which two characters I see 99.95% of the energy focused on; the first two don't count.

And maybe that's not a reflection on the show (remember, haven't seen it). Maybe I'm getting a skewed view of the fandom from the random bits I happen to see. But I truly cannot motivate myself to watch this show where every goddamn reference to it makes me say to myself, "Seriously, fandom? Four team members and you pick the two white guys again?!"

(And, I admit, this isn't helped by one of them being Scott Caan (far right), because, seriously?)

Before commenting, please note: as the title says, I am ranting. If you can honestly tell me that the fandom isn't actually all about the white guys (hell, I won't even demand 50%, just a sizable chunk), go ahead and show your work. But I really don't want to hear explanations, justifications, or defenses. You, personally, reading this? Your reasons for being interested in one character/relationship more than another are your own, they're for you to be happy with or not, and I'm not going to give you a gold star or the Magical Minority Fairy seal of approval or whatever, so please keep them to yourself. I'm talking about my own reaction to the apparent aggregate fannish reaction, which is: very tired.

[*] Sadly Sherlock has only one non-white character in its principal cast, and she is not only nasty but gets slut-shamed (well done, show!), so I cannot justly blame her marginalization in fic on fandom alone. (Note, however, that I have not seen that many fics attempting to reclaim her character.) Leverage fandom, at least back when I read it, might be a little bit better about this—Hardison being a geek helps—though I continue to look very side-eyed at the prevalence of Eliot/Nate in this regard. Of course my principal comparison, as the main post suggests, is SGA . . . and that is a topic that will not fit in the bounds of this footnote.



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missyb: (Smirk)


[personal profile] missyb
2011-04-22 03:25 am UTC (link)
I do not recognize the two white dudes at all.

I do, however, recognize Grace Park from BSG and Daniel Dae-Kim from Angel. If TV and I spent a significant amount of time together, I'd probably watch for them. In particular, Grace Park was riveting in BSG.

(Daniel Dae-Kim was wonderful in Angel, but I will freely admit to being utterly fascinated by the planes and angles of his beautiful face, no matter what role he's playing.)

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[personal profile] kate_nepveu
2011-04-22 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Probably I should've posted a picture without Scott Caan in glasses--he was one of the annoying brothers in the Ocean's movies.

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2011-04-22 02:50 pm UTC (link)
I think Daniel Dae-Kim is an amazing actor, too. When I have seen him, and it has always been in supporting roles, he steals the scenes. Not just because of his face, which of course is Hollywood Hot, but also because he has A M A Z I N G diction. I could fall into his voice.

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[personal profile] thomasyan
2011-04-22 04:18 pm UTC (link)
I recognize the guy on the far left as playing the somewhat dim vampire lead on the Moonlight TV series, which I watched on the disease channel, er, I mean SciFi/SyFy, because I've been a fan of Sophia Myles ever since seeing her in Mansfield Park.

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