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A happy fannish thing!

Spoilers for the opening of the new Cordelia Vorkosigan novel:

Here is a report from someone who heard LMB read the first chapter (and which I have confirmed is accurate from someone who's read the book):

The biggest revelation of the reading regards the other title character, who, like Cordelia, is a viewpoint character. His name is Oliver Jole, and he’s the Admiral in charge of Barrayaran forces in the Sergyar system.

He was also Aral’s lover. Has been for years. Totally consensual poly relationship, all around. It’s not clear whether Jole and Cordelia have been physically intimate, but it’s clear from their interactions and inner monologues that both of them care deeply about each other, and both loved Aral.

*runs around screaming*

Canon poly m/m relationship in a Vorkosigan book! With Jole of all people! Queerness after what seemed like a concerted effort to run away from it in every book after Ethan of Athos!

I swear, for no particular reason I was thinking about the new book when I was drying my hair this morning, and I decided there was no way Aral/Jole would be canon because it would be too big a thing to introduce after Aral's death (besides all the other reasons, of course). And on that note, here is an analysis of the tiny bit of canon about Jole to date, from a fic writer who actually wrote Aral/Jole with Cordelia as go-between (!!) and therefore looks like a genius today.

*flails some more*

So yeah, there's the other end of my massive fannish mood swings today.

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 02:01 am (UTC)
mme_hardy: White rose (Default)
From: [personal profile] mme_hardy
I saw that on Tumblr, and OMG I was so pleased.

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 02:33 am (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
*whoop!*

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 03:10 am (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
He was also Aral’s lover. Has been for years. Totally consensual poly relationship, all around.

So years ago I read Shards of Honor and Barrayar and failed utterly to get into The Warrior's Apprentice, possibly because it wasn't about Cordelia and Aral. Is there any chance it will be possible for me to skip the intervening thirty years of canon and just pick up with this novel?

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 03:27 am (UTC)
sovay: (Cho Hakkai: intelligence)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I haven't read it, obviously, but I actually have a hunch that the answer might be yes, given this is the first Cordelia book since the two you read, and it takes place on a completely different planet.

Awesome. Fingers crossed.

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 09:27 pm (UTC)
phi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] phi
Would you need to have at least read Cryoburn though? (I haven't; it came out long after my first wave of infatuation with the series, and my attention span for novel length works has been poor to nonexistant ever since grad school. . .)

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 09:42 pm (UTC)
ailis_fictive: We Who Fly (we who fly)
From: [personal profile] ailis_fictive
The epilogue of Cryoburn would be useful - but it is a series of drabbles (5, I think?) and can be read utterly without reference to the rest of the book.

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 04:10 am (UTC)
julian: Picture of Julian Street. (Default)
From: [personal profile] julian
Well, that's very comprehensive and very useful!

*sedate flail* (I was at a 4 hour meeting, I don't have the energy for an actual flail)

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 11:42 am (UTC)
kass: white cat; "kass" (Default)
From: [personal profile] kass
I am delighted about this, too.

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 12:12 pm (UTC)
rmc28: Rachel smiling against background of trees, with newly-cut short hair (Default)
From: [personal profile] rmc28
I am *really* looking forward to this book :-)

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 02:09 pm (UTC)
oracne: turtle (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracne
!!! WOW!

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 05:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sraun
In the Q&A, Lois did say that yes, this has been an ongoing relationship for the last (mumble) years. Miles has been blind to it - which is not really a surprise. There's been no in universe reason to bring it up before this.

There's also that issue that Jim Baen was ... uncomfortable? with homosexuality. To the extent that she reported at one time that he said 'I'll buy anything you write except a sequel to San Francisco Planet.' Useful to have a contract-breaking book idea in your back pocket - especially when it means that it's the publisher would be breaking the contract!

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thomasyan
Pretty cool!

Date: Tuesday, April 7th, 2015 06:15 pm (UTC)
yhlee: Gunn pointing his finger (AtS Gunn)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
This actually makes me want to read it. I'm be damned.

When the hell was Jole mentioned? I cannot recall anyone by that name at all, but it's been a while (and I also don't keep up with Vorkosiganverse fanfic).

Date: Wednesday, April 8th, 2015 12:55 am (UTC)
yhlee: wax seal (hxx Deuce of Gears)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
*blush* I didn't even see the link--my bad, and thank you!

Date: Wednesday, April 8th, 2015 02:12 am (UTC)
rilina: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rilina
Definitely excited to read this now!

Date: Thursday, April 9th, 2015 03:49 pm (UTC)
damerell: (reading)
From: [personal profile] damerell
Squee! # to be somewhat incoherent

Date: Saturday, April 11th, 2015 11:29 am (UTC)
mirrorshard: (The Book of Rainbows)
From: [personal profile] mirrorshard
This made my day 250% better. Also: Jole is NOT VOR.

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