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ext_12920 ([identity profile] desdenova.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] kate_nepveu 2005-07-28 01:58 am (UTC)

I apologize in advance for my excessive rambling, and posting graphics in your comments.

The non-linear progression of panels thing, using minor or background panels to refer to inner thoughts, or to do mood-setting, or to draw your eye to important details, is a common technique. You see it way, way more in manga than in Western comics, and more often in "shojo" (girl-oriented) manga than in "shonen" (boy-oriented) manga. Saiyuki is interesting in that Minekura is using shojo-type techniques to tell what would otherwise be a shonen-type story (action-adventure questy stuff). She's a bit of a Roger Zelazny, that way. (The extensive use of screen-tones to convey mood and emotional states is another standard shojo technique.)

Have you read Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud? If you found those posts by [livejournal.com profile] coffee_and_ink and [livejournal.com profile] telophase interesting, I recommend it. He does a really thorough job of dissecting and analyzing all the different aspects of sequential-art storytelling, including what techniques are commonly used by creators from different cultures. It's really good stuff.

Back to the subject matter at hand:

Re: page 1.1.54 and panel-reading order, the visual clue that tells us which order to read them in is the extra-wide margin around the two upper-right panels. The big margin indicates a scene change from the street to the inn, and once that division is made, the order of reading flows naturally:
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You're right; that layout with Hakkai, Kougaiji, and Yaone is really neat. Thanks for pointing it out! It's been a long while since I've looked at the earlier volumes (they have been on loan).





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