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Kate ([personal profile] kate_nepveu) wrote2009-07-13 08:07 pm

Readercon report

I treated Readercon as a vacation, meaning I came out Thursday, went to only the panels I really wanted to, and generally was not in the mood to deal with annoying things because hey, vacation.

As other people have said, the programming seemed to assume that everyone was treating it like a vacation, scheduling a ton of stuff on Friday (including no dinner break) and much more lightly on the actual weekend days. Since this was not a long weekend, this seemed peculiarly suboptimal. The programming content also seemed to have some peculiarities (well-qualified people who asked to be on relevant panels not put on panels in favor of people who seemed much less well qualified; highly gendered assignments on two of the panels I attended, and possibly more I didn't).

As for the venue, the panel rooms were indeed freezing cold, and I seem to have been the only person who had no trouble with the hotel wireless.

I went to six program items: three panels, two talks, and one reading. Notes on the first two sets forthcoming or already posted. The reading was David Anthony Durham's; he read the Prologue from The Other Lands, the sequel to Acacia (which I am almost done reviewing, honest!), which was from the point-of-view of one of the children taken in the Quota. Also an unofficial item, readings from recent issues of Sybil's Garage, which prompted me to buy issue no. 6; though, looking at the tables of contents, I should also have bought issue no. 5 since I was very impressed with Veronica Schanoes's ferocious reading of her story "Lost in the Supermarket" (which quite dissuaded me from the idea of mentioning that my favorite version of that is the Afghan Whigs' cover, or that I think someone should vid Harry Potter to it (probably the original version, there)).

I had lovely conversations with lots of people I'd met before (including one blast from my early Internet past) and some I hadn't; I'm not going to do the namecheck thing because I find that awkward, but if we talked and I might not know how to find you now, feel free to leave your LJ name or blog address in comments. I also was patronized by a white man old enough to be my father and had a younger white man hit two race-discussion bingo squares in two sentences; but since that last came after I'd brought up racism in fandom at a talk and the other people who spoke to me about it were positive, well, it could be worse. (More on that later. And sexism too, whee!)

Alas, the flyer for next year's Readercon is deeply unpromising: no guests of honor, single-track programming, and a tagline: "This IS your father's Readercon." Apparently Readercon has no qualms about the graying of fandom or excluding women for the sake of a punchline! And I am very dubious about the idea of single-track programming a con of several hundred people, full of people who desparately want to be on programming: to paraphrase someone else, it seems likely that the loudest and most institutional people will end up on panels. I'd be tempted to just take advantage of the con rate for the hotel and camp out in the lobby to see people, but you know, the hotel is not actually that nice or convenient. Stop me before I volunteer to run a counter-con (Arisia for the vanilla!), because I so do not have time.

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] ericmvan has now called the tagline a mistake; further information may be found scattered through those comments, though a clear statement of intentions for next year has been strongly urged.

Link roundups will be over at [livejournal.com profile] readercon as usual; also I'm taking suggestions on what I should do about all the Twitter posts about the con.

[identity profile] scifantasy.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Stop me before I volunteer to run a counter-con (Arisia for the vanilla!)

Does that imply that Arisia itself is not for the vanilla? I mean, I know it's kink-friendly, but when I was there this year I don't recall anything that would squick out a vanilla person that wasn't part of a clearly marked kink-related event...

The programming thing seems to be happening a lot lately--apparently some internecine warfare in Programming Ops at Baycon led to some issues of similar form. (I say "apparently" because, as a non-local, I didn't know firsthand.)

I am curious to hear about the racism/sexism issues...your influence, I'm sure.

And yes, that sounds like a disappointing Readercon 2010.
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[personal profile] ckd 2009-07-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there was the year that the "Vanilla Monogamy Meet and Greet" was scheduled into the con suite, and wound up being a few people hanging out just outside the actual con suite....

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[identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not comfortable at Arisia. I think I would be better about it if it were not coincidentally Claustrophobiacon (awkward hotel, crowded, narrow halls), but the one time I attended in its previous location I was still not comfortable with many of the costumes. It was riiiight on the border of bystander consent, and I don't like being that close to the border.

(Some dealers' materials are similarly borderliney, although that was my own fault -- individual dealers are in individual rooms, so I could just have not walked into that one.)

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[personal profile] ckd 2009-07-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
My father's Readercon would probably involve panels discussing FM 8-10-6.
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[personal profile] redbird 2009-07-14 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Don't run a counter-con, but consider going to Potlatch. (I've been to one Potlatch, liked it, and it's of a size where one track does work.)
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[personal profile] yendi 2009-07-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm assuming you've seen it already (or will, when you compile Readercon links), but [livejournal.com profile] yuki_onna has proposed Island Con for next year.

[identity profile] beth-bernobich.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
And sexism too, whee!

Oh, lord. I had one of those encounters. I was cross-eyed with fury.

[identity profile] annewashere.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
That does sound deeply unpromising. It sucks when something you previously enjoyed drifts toward something else.

[identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I saw in comments elsewhere that the concom is burnt out, so there was a chance that Readercon would simply go away for a year or two, until someone came up with the idea of a more relaxed con. This sounds sort of reasonable, but the messaging around it hasn't been good, and it is not clear if actually canceling for a year would work out for the best.

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[personal profile] cofax7 2009-07-14 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Single-track programming a con the size of Readercon? That's ... not very sensible.

And "This IS your father's Readercon."--so very exclusionary, I'm horrified.

I feel bad for all the people for whom this is their hometown con, if that's what's going on there. I look forward to your further reports.

[identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
That flyer-- whoof. A counter-con is something to consider, as clearly the concom does not want me to go to Readercon 2010. I have been wincing about that all day.

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Come to Farthing Party instead. It'll be later in the year, but involve the same amount of time off.

[identity profile] grahamsleight.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Nice to meet you (even if I was slow on the uptake about who you were after my talk). Re your reservations about next year's: yes, I feel pretty much the same way & spoke with a couple of committee members on the last day. Without making any promises, it was clear that they understood the problems, and I'm hoping that they can come up with a saner solution soon.

[identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
which was from the point-of-view of one of the children taken in the Quota

Yes!

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[identity profile] tool-of-satan.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep thinking I really should make it to Readercon one of these years, given that I live 15 minutes away, but I always end up with something else scheduled for the weekend before I notice it. And maybe now I should stop thinking that.

[identity profile] popelizbet.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Having seen the way the con organizer was talking over at [livejournal.com profile] yuki_onna's place, I think Readercon is one of those things my friends are going to keep telling me to come to and I'm going to keep politely declining. Because I'm not liking the way that man speaks to other people.

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