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Kate ([personal profile] kate_nepveu) wrote2014-10-13 10:11 pm
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unconfirmed spoilers for Captain America 3

Like the subject line says: unconfirmed reports of the plot for Captain America 3 are behind the cut.

EDIT: [personal profile] musesfool kindly provides a direct interview in which the directors call it "highly unlikely" from just last month!

Variety reports Cap 3 will be a Civil War plotline.

Robert Downey Jr. is on the verge of signing on to “Captain America 3,” a move that would bring the Civil War storyline from Marvel’s comicbooks to the bigscreen and trigger the start of a new phase of movies from Marvel Studios.

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The deal is significant for the Marvel cinematic universe considering the plot will pit Stark against Captain America’s alter-ego Steve Rogers, played by Chris Evans, as they feud over the Superhero Registration Act, which forces anyone with superhuman abilities to reveal their identities to the U.S. government and agree to act as a police force for the authorities.


Stark supports the program, but Rogers does not, saying it threatens civil liberties, causing sides to be taken and Rogers, among others, to go on the run to avoid arrest.



I mean, I guess it makes more sense post-collapse-of-SHIELD and with new powers on the scene for Avengers: Age of Ultron, but still (1) that's not enough secret superheroes for this to make sense and (2) entirely out of character for MCU!Tony!

I just, ugh. This is what I get for procrastinating by opening Twitter.

(And this bumps up likelihood that Cap 3, aka the last movie on Chris Evans' contract, is the Death of Captain America. *pre-emptively mourns*)

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[personal profile] leighdb 2014-10-14 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ew. I've never actually read the Civil War comic line, but everything I've heard about it suggests that it was awful in multiple ways. Do Not Want.
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[personal profile] yendi 2014-10-14 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It was terrible (Mark Millar is like the King Midas of crappy writing). But frankly, so was the Winter Soldier plotline. The Iron Man Extremis one was also terrible. And Age of Ultron was a hot mess, but no one's expecting the film to fail. I actually think some of these plotines work better simplified on the big screen than in comics.

(That said, aside from the interview linked above in comments to suggesting it ain't so, this is a plotline that would make a lot more sense in an Avengers movie than a Cap one.)
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[personal profile] mmcirvin 2014-10-14 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... I just belatedly saw Iron Man 3, and I wasn't actually that fond of where they went with the Extremis stuff. But it was certainly better than Iron Man 2 (Ben Kingsley stole the movie).

I think Iron Man might just be an inherently icky character to the degree that my limit for taking him as the headliner is one feature film, which stood out because at the time it was different. More just becomes grating. Keep him in an ensemble, with Cap and Bruce Banner pushing against him, and he's diluted enough to stand.

Though the notion of putting the Civil War storyline in the Captain America sub-franchise might just be that that's now the place for darker, more political material, and Avengers has to have a lighter touch and kid appeal.
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[personal profile] kodi 2014-10-14 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, the core problem with the Civil War plotline is that it deliberately redefines what it means to be a "superhero" in the Marvel world. When it's essential to the plotline to assign some heroes to the "pro" side of fascism, they've just lost me.