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kate_nepveuSPOILERS.
Jeez, they pack a fuckton of stuff into 11 minutes, don't they?
So there was pop-up programming at WisCon to talk about the Pink Diamond revelation, and it was informal sit-around-in-a-circle and I didn't take notes, but I did remember that I was much more willing to give Pink the benefit of the doubt when it came to the war than a lot of people: both with regard to her motives, and with regard to causation. I mean, don't get me wrong, as we discussed: Pink's actions toward Pearl are emphatically wrong, and whether as Rose or Pink she remains an Anticolonialist Failboat (note that that thread is from before the reveal). But it seemed plausible to me, from what we'd seen, that the course of the war was Pink making pretty reasonable judgments based on the information she had at hand. In particular, it didn't seem obvious to me that Pink should have expected Blue and Yellow to react to her "shattering" with the corruption.
And this episode gives us a reason that she didn't tell Garnet and ask her to use future vision to evaluate the plan: she wanted to preserve the rebels' belief in her as a Gem who chose her own path, because she was inspired by the choices they were making on their own paths. Was this an optimal, or even good, decision? No, of course not. Was it an error made in good faith and for a reason that was not wholly selfish? I think so.
Was it as serious a thing to come to grips with as Rose shattering Pink? I also don't think so, and so I remain cautious about the show walking that back.
(The airing schedule continues to do the show no favors: letting the Rose = Pink revelation sit around without this context probably gave a lot of fans time to harden their hearts, and for me, I suspect the lumpy pacing likely influences why I was holding so hard to Rose having shattered Pink.)
Amazing work by the VAs, on Pearl and Rose's development over the episode. And Pearl! For all the words I just spent on Rose/Pink, I can't believe how much we got about Pearl (hah, I knew that horrible outfit meant she was a gift from Blue and Yellow) and how far she came, I love her so much.
It did not escape my attention that Rose told Pearl "please don't ever stop" when Pearl was confessing her feelings, just before they briefly fused. My suspicion is that binding orders have to be stated as such ("for my last order to you as a Diamond, please, let's never speak of this again"), but just making a note of it.
And now I have things to do and cannot rewatch this split-screened with "The Answer." Alas.
Jeez, they pack a fuckton of stuff into 11 minutes, don't they?
So there was pop-up programming at WisCon to talk about the Pink Diamond revelation, and it was informal sit-around-in-a-circle and I didn't take notes, but I did remember that I was much more willing to give Pink the benefit of the doubt when it came to the war than a lot of people: both with regard to her motives, and with regard to causation. I mean, don't get me wrong, as we discussed: Pink's actions toward Pearl are emphatically wrong, and whether as Rose or Pink she remains an Anticolonialist Failboat (note that that thread is from before the reveal). But it seemed plausible to me, from what we'd seen, that the course of the war was Pink making pretty reasonable judgments based on the information she had at hand. In particular, it didn't seem obvious to me that Pink should have expected Blue and Yellow to react to her "shattering" with the corruption.
And this episode gives us a reason that she didn't tell Garnet and ask her to use future vision to evaluate the plan: she wanted to preserve the rebels' belief in her as a Gem who chose her own path, because she was inspired by the choices they were making on their own paths. Was this an optimal, or even good, decision? No, of course not. Was it an error made in good faith and for a reason that was not wholly selfish? I think so.
Was it as serious a thing to come to grips with as Rose shattering Pink? I also don't think so, and so I remain cautious about the show walking that back.
(The airing schedule continues to do the show no favors: letting the Rose = Pink revelation sit around without this context probably gave a lot of fans time to harden their hearts, and for me, I suspect the lumpy pacing likely influences why I was holding so hard to Rose having shattered Pink.)
Amazing work by the VAs, on Pearl and Rose's development over the episode. And Pearl! For all the words I just spent on Rose/Pink, I can't believe how much we got about Pearl (hah, I knew that horrible outfit meant she was a gift from Blue and Yellow) and how far she came, I love her so much.
It did not escape my attention that Rose told Pearl "please don't ever stop" when Pearl was confessing her feelings, just before they briefly fused. My suspicion is that binding orders have to be stated as such ("for my last order to you as a Diamond, please, let's never speak of this again"), but just making a note of it.
And now I have things to do and cannot rewatch this split-screened with "The Answer." Alas.
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Date: 2018-07-03 06:29 am (UTC)I struggle so much with Pearl's crush on Pink/Rose when their power relationship is hugely unbalanced. Even if not phrased as an order, that request has the force of one, because all Pearl can think of is pleasing her Diamond—it's innate to her pearl-ness.
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Date: 2018-07-03 12:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-07-03 12:34 pm (UTC)Yes, I meant to talk about that and got distracted by looking up the quote from "A Single Pale Rose." It's similar to Pink's motivations, I could see that the show was making the case for Pearl's feelings and showing the growth that Pink fostered in her--but Pearl's own fantasy of wanting to have met differently underlines that they didn't, and that's hard. (But also suggests why Pearl might have been more ok with keeping the secret before Steven.)
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Date: 2018-07-03 12:42 pm (UTC)Right, whereas "A Single Pale Rose" was Pearl's memories without Pearl's voice to contextualize them, a very different experience! Though I do think that, in a meta/structural sense, we're supposed to accept these as reliable, given their positioning in the series, you know?
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Date: 2018-07-06 02:24 am (UTC)I really hope there will be more of Bismuth now that that can be discussed.
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Date: 2018-07-06 02:30 am (UTC)