a day may come when I will stop posting about Captain America

[kate_nepveu]

but it is not this day. Saw it again tonight, this time with Chad.

I went in assuming Pierce to be a bad guy, but I wasn't certain. The timing of the attacks on Fury and Steve should really have been a big clue: Fury asks for Insight to be delayed, next scene he's attacked on the street. Steve refuses to tell Pierce about why Fury was in his apartment, next scene he's attacked in the elevator. The second gets just enough plausible cover in Pierce's speech to the SHIELD agents, and the first could be a bug, or the Council, but in hindsight . . .

Steve's putting the USB key in the vending machine shows he is just as bad a spy as he is a liar, or how this fanart puts it.

I am 60% sure that Clint is mentioned: just before the techs with headsets get their ears buzzed, someone says "Barton," then something about "his place" or "spot," and "Afghanistan," and "two months." But "Barton" comes very first in the dialogue, and it's quiet, so I can't swear to it.

(Speaking of which, this gif set of the Avengers going incognito in street clothes: the one of Bruce is actually from Now You See Me, the magicians-heist movie; is the one of Clint from the MCU?)

While it's awesome that the tech refuses Rumlow's order to launch the helicarriers early and Agent 13 backs him up, I really really hate that they cite "Captain's orders" when they do so. Steve specifically did NOT order anyone! (I'm fairly certain he didn't call himself "Captain," either.) That's what's important, that he offered people the opportunity to do the right thing and they weren't just following orders when they did so.

Finally, I figured out what was bugging me about the way the movie leaves Nick Fury: it intercuts his burning the eyepatch with Natasha at the congressional hearing, and therefore I associate the end of his arc with the whole exceptionalism thing.

See, that wasn't so much after all!

(No, wait, one more thing. You can't see the Steve mannequin in the Bucky tag, so you don't know if they recreated the uniform or what. (I'd love to know what the exhibit chose to say about recent events. Also, the tablet offered to autocomplete Steve as steeeeeeve for me, which I think means I have a problem . . . ))

Only different trailer was for The Giver, which looked like a bog-standard boring YA dystopia before the title reveal. (Somehow I made it out of the US educational system without reading it, so I don't know if I'd have recognized it beforehand.)

Comments

[delfinnium]

Clint's street clothes is Jeremy renner in Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol as William Brandt, actually, where he's portraying an Analyst,just hauled out of a river. Hence him wrapped up in a long sleeved sweater and looking like a slightly drowned kitten.

[kate_nepveu]

Hah, I was right. Well, not about where it was from, but that it wasn't MCU. Thanks!

[julian]

I was going to say that looked like MI, but Delf got there first with more detail.

Other people have said that the line is that "Barton's still in Afghanistan," which I will accept since it makes me feel better.

[kate_nepveu]

Yeah, I'd seen that around, which is why I was listening, but I couldn't be sure myself.

[rushthatspeaks]

Oh dear-- if The Giver looked like that, then, even allowing for being-a-trailer issues, they have almost certainly done it wrong. Sigh.

[rimrunner]

I've read The Giver several times. The trailer looks nothing like it.

[kate_nepveu]

Alas.

[princessofgeeks]

I took Sharon's tag line as metaphorical. Going more to her motive than a slavish reproduction of what he said.

[kate_nepveu]

Motive, yes, but it's the _wrong metaphor_.

You want to call back to soldiers and trust versus spies and distrust? Then have the tech say that he _chooses to trust Steve Rogers_, and have Sharon agree with *that*.

[musesfool]

I took it to mean that Steve's 'orders' were to choose what they thought was right, and so they were following that.

[mikeda]

Besides, it seems to me that it would be really tempting to phrase it that way. It's a nice catchy phrase even though it isn't precisely the right metaphor.

And it works as a rallying slogan.

[kate_nepveu]

Yeessss, fine, but I am still stubbornly, reflexively opposed to the way they phrased it. =>

[mmcirvin]

OK, I finally saw this movie.

The moment it won me over completely was probably the Siege of Nick Fury's Car. If you're going to do paranoia, go all out.

But I was also grinning like an idiot during the scene in which it was revealed that Armin Zola is now an AI running in a basement full of dusty 1970s mainframes with big magtape drives. Probably for the same reason that the only bit of Terminator 3, an otherwise disappointing and lousy flick, that I unreservedly liked was the end scene in the old NORAD command center.

(Can I swallow the Zola AI? In the Marvel Universe? Yeah, sure. And, anyway, a Nazi upload AI running on Seventies blinkenlights-and-magtapes computers is exactly the kind of thing that would happen in a krazy old conspiracy movie of the sort they're homaging here.)

I did wonder about the DC geography. Is the Triskelion on Teddy Roosevelt Island? It'd make sense, except that that would put the giant Insight Helicarrier hangars under the river in the direct path of the Blue/Orange Line Metro tunnel between Rosslyn and Foggy Bottom, which seems like kind of a problem from a secrecy perspective.

It's also remarkable that the carriers managed to crash into the river without taking out most of that section of the waterfront. I was thinking "man, the Kennedy Center is toast."

[sovay]

Fury asks for Insight to be delayed, next scene he's attacked on the street.

I really like how shockingly that interaction goes from microaggression to assassination, the first disguising the second: oh, right, driving while black, it's Tuesday is suddenly the van's AI in the middle of a lethal-force firefight telling Fury that there are no police within a relevant radius and the only thing that still works is the air conditioning.

[kate_nepveu]

Yes. And more broadly, that's why Steve isn't anywhere near the offices at the finale, why Robert Redford's blue eyed formerly-blond boy is taken down by Fury and Natasha.