kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
[personal profile] kate_nepveu

I'm just gonna quote myself from last year:

There are lots of reasons why people don't read things based on their opinions of the authors. Me, if I know that someone holds views I find morally repugnant, or if I personally dislike them, etc., then I can't keep myself from looking for evidence of those disliked traits in the work, which is unfair to the work, and so I don't even bother. Other people refuse to lend support to live authors, but are okay with dead ones. Other people think the author is dead in the interpretive sense to the extent that they don't care. All of these are valid decisions, because the way people read is so personal and because people make different moral and ethical discussions.

[ . . . ]

All that said, I promised agnosticism, which is this: I genuinely cannot find it in me to care whether the Hugos devolve into, as James Nicoll points out with characteristic brevity and asperity, political parties, or whether prior community norms about politicking prevail, or Vox Day et al. get bored, or whatever. Worst comes to worst, a few years of concerted effort results in actual winners instead of mere nominations for hateful trolls, and a few year after that, booksellers and the like catch up and realize that the Hugo is no longer prestigious, and, well, SFF fandom is big, even the bits of it that self-identify as fandom, and WorldCon and the Hugos are only a small part of that. Maybe Locus stops overweighting subscriber votes and becomes the popular award of record. Maybe the Nebulas experience a surge in prestige. Maybe I hit the lottery and endow a juried award in my honor. Who knows? But the Hugos aren't that big a teapot, at the end of the day, and if people want to self-identify with them and participate in the community that votes on them, great, they should do that, and if people don't, great, they should do that too.

(Reference: this year's "Sad Puppies" Hugo slate—hilariously, not even that contained Vox Day; the just-announced Hugo finalists. (ETA: apparently Vox Day also had a slate, but I am not going to his site on principle (see last year's post, linked above, for context.))

Date: 2015-04-04 08:06 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Sydney Carton)
From: [personal profile] sovay
(Reference: this year's "Sad Puppies" Hugo slate—hilariously, not even that contained Vox Day; the just-announced Hugo finalists.)

Oh, good grief.

Date: 2015-04-04 08:23 pm (UTC)
phi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] phi
I find nothing to disagree with in your quote of yourself. I also find that I can't bring myself to care enough, this year, to even click the Sad Puppies link.

Date: 2015-04-04 10:59 pm (UTC)
likeadeuce: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeadeuce
Heh, and I'm certainly not going to bother buying a supporting membership with the intention of sorting through this mess.

Date: 2015-04-04 11:34 pm (UTC)
lavendertook: abyssinian kitty: one ring to rule them all! (smeagol cat)
From: [personal profile] lavendertook
They're little energizer bunnies on a regression track, raging at their irrelevance. But still so annoying. There's a pizza place in Indiana where they can have a reserved table.

Date: 2015-04-06 04:47 pm (UTC)
silveraspen: comic book image of wonder woman looking over her shoulder (wonder woman: not impressed with your bs)
From: [personal profile] silveraspen
Ugh. So much ugh.

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