Loncon: quick followups

[kate_nepveu]

I am so busy that I don't have time to tell you how busy I am. Also operating under a fairly serious sleep deficiency. But, very quickly:

• Tobias Buckell has a post about the panel he was on that I found uncomfortable, Imagining Fantasy Lands: The Status Quo Does Not Need Worldbuilding.
• User error ate my notes from the post-colonialism panel, which is too bad because at this point all I remember is the boggling bit (Brenda Clough unironically recommended Kim—yes, the one by Kipling, that one), and not any of the actual useful recommendations. Anyone else there who wants to chime in?
• My fanfic & queer desires panel was fine after all—I'd been concerned beforehand because the moderator, though clearly well-intentioned and conscientious, was also entirely unfamiliar with the topic. But he set out broad questions that were clearly implied by the panel description and then got out of the panelists' way, which worked for this topic though I still disagree with that general philosophy of moderator assigning. The only thing I want to really highlight from that was the concept of anti-fandom: the universe doesn't consist of just fans and non-fans of X, there can be anti-fans of X, who engage in all the acts of fannishness than fans do, except from a position of loathing X (see: Twilight). Which I find fascinating.
• Uh. Hello, wall, I have just hit you. I want to say more about the con overall, but: it was good. Thanks, everyone, for putting it on.

Comments

[jesse_the_k]

Sorry about that wall.

Do anti-fans share groans and grumps and scorn instead of squee? That doesn't seem like a sustainable organizing model.

[kate_nepveu]

That's the impression I get, but I think there's a unifying aspect to the sheer vitriol involved. I could be wrong, though.

[yhlee]

As someone who reads and watches things sometimes just to viciously spork them, I actually kind of identify with the anti-fan thing, although I don't really organize around it. I just like to hate things sometimes. (Vampire Diaries as a case in point, although I finally divorced the show when the stupid grew unbearable.)

[kate_nepveu]

Yeah, there can be something energizing about it, especially in a group (see: any sports fandom with a rivalry, though only in part).

[metaphortunate]

Yeah, hate-watching is totally a thing! See also "so bad it's good". I think it's often a source of cheap superiority. Or maybe that's just me rejecting something I used to enjoy but now don't. I find that as I get older I much more enjoy things I actually enjoy. :)