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Took the kids to see Captain Marvel yesterday afternoon, their first MCU movie, though they are familiar with the MCU overall by general cultural osmosis.

Mild spoilers, a few additional thoughts.

They loved it; they laughed their heads off at Goose, of course, but they also vocally appreciated when Carol screamed back in the face of a Skrull while she was fighting to escape the ship, which is a small enough moment that I wasn't sure would catch them (it was in one of the trailers or TV spots or something). And they insisted on staying for both post-credit scenes, even though I told them the second was really short and I would tell them its content. I had to dissuade SteelyKid from wanting to see Avengers: Endgame, though ("honestly, kiddo, Infinity War just . . . wasn't very good?").

I had previously come to the conclusion that it is of course totally legit for people to comment on the movie's ambition or soundtrack or whatever . . . but I am just not here for it. That Monica doesn't get to be a prior Captain Marvel, yes, that's definitely a thing; or if there are critiques of the movie's treatment of Maria or Fury, I will listen. I registered that the fight scenes were not particularly notably shot and were often murky as fuck, to boot. But sometimes I just like an action movie that has good characters and ideally a bit of substance, and I am happy for this one to have a place in the MCU. And on rewatch, I still really enjoyed Carol punching spaceships.

Two minor notes: possibly the credits version of "Celebrity Skin" slightly obscured "sluts"? It wasn't a bleep but to my ear it wasn't distinct, either. And we still got the Dark Phoenix trailer, and this time it was really notable to me how the imagery of a woman glowing and flying and talking about emotional control was so precisely reversed in meaning between the trailer and the movie it was playing before. I suppose it's theoretically possible that Dark Phoenix might still come around to making it not horribly sexist! Hard to imagine the X-Men corner of the movies pulling an Iron Man 3, though.

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Date: 2019-03-17 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stormfeather
Huh, I had kinda noticed the same thing on that particular credits song, but attributed it to my ear or whatever, but yeah I would say they probably slightly obscured it somehow.

Are the X-Men under the same universe yet? My impression was that they weren't, and that Spider-Man sort of isn't by virtue of still being owned by someone else but is getting tied into it. I am REALLY not good at following the ins-and-outs of movie franchise ownership and such though.

I actually haven't seen the Dark Phoenix trailer yet. Should probably go watch it on YouTube at some point.

Date: 2019-03-17 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] melita66
Try the international trailer rather than the 2 (or 3) US market ones. It's telling a more linear story and reflects the original Dark Phoenix saga better...plus more women speaking!

https://youtu.be/v0671zC2a3A

Date: 2019-03-17 09:57 pm (UTC)
stormfeather: (OneWing)
From: [personal profile] stormfeather
I knew they were cross-pollinating between Spider-man and the MCU, but my impression was that he wasn't strictly part of the MCU due to the movies still being run/made by someone else. I could have been totally wrong in that impression though!

Date: 2019-03-18 12:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theweaselking
Marvel Studios made a deal with Sony. Sony still owns the movie rights to Spider-Man, but Marvel Studios will be allowed to use Spider-Man in exchange for making some Spider-Man movies for Sony.

This is basically because Sony finally realised that even though they owned the rights, they couldn't make a good movie to save their lives and they wanted some of that sweet billion dollar Marvel money instead of leaving it on the table by making more Sony movies.


(Sony still gets to do things like Into The Spider-Verse without Marvel's involvement. And ITSV was actually a genuinely good movie so maybe Sony is learning?)

Date: 2019-03-20 01:46 am (UTC)
stormfeather: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stormfeather
Ah, I knew something convoluted was going on, I just didn't remember exactly what.

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